I spoke with DS earlier. He told me he was taking pictures outside a Catholic church, and he stopped to talk to a woman who walked out of the church. As he was taking information from her for his caption (I’m not sure if he had taken her picture, or if he was speaking to her about the church), she said something along the lines of: Be sure to include that the fathers are very holy here.
I had to laugh.
My father is holier than your father.